Just Amy: On Being a Table Flipper [Podcast]

Just Amy: On Being a Table Flipper [Podcast]

In this solo episode of PR Talk, I share my thoughts about trying to work on Diversity, Equity & Inclusion at my daughter’s school (and how every good movement needs a table flipper), Roe v. Wade, guns and school shootings, Moms Demand Action and my favorite podcast; Glennon Doyle’s We Can Do Hard Things.

Plus, a shout out to: Chris Penn’s Almost Timely News, 26-June-2022: Good Habits Lead to Great Change (WARNING: POLITICAL).

Wow, now I don’t feel all a mess. I sat down to record a solo podcast today because I felt I needed to say something about our country sliding backward 50 years. But instead, what came out was a jumble of varying initiatives I am thinking about, feeling overwhelmed by all the things to focus on.

Since there wasn’t anything I could come up with to say about reproductive rights (as I explain here that the overturning of Roe v. Wade is too new for coherent thought), I directed people to Glennon Doyle’s podcast, We Can Do Hard Things and their latest episode on Four Things to Do Next. I was happy to hear from them that everything concerning our right to create the lives we want — such as living in a world without gun violence and racism — is connected to reproductive justice.

So, working on diversity, equity and inclusion — as I explain that I have been doing lately in my newly assigned role as “Table Flipper” — also somehow addresses reproductive rights. Same with how working on gun control — as I explain my aim of joining Moms Demand Action — is another way of working on reproductive justice.

 First things first. Laugh a little as you learn how I have flipped some tables lately at a local Catholic school in my quest to demand a more just society for my daughter and her friends. And then hear my redirection of interesting podcasts to listen to and ways to think about your future involvement in the large task that is ahead.

Listen to this amazing episode about Four Things to Do Next (Apple, Spotify),  and maybe we’ll start to feel a little better while embracing the daunting task that is ahead.

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PR Globe Trotting From Germany to Dubai [Podcast]

PR Globe Trotting From Germany to Dubai [Podcast]

On this week’s episode of the PR Talk Podcast, host Amy Rosenberg chats with Katharina (Kat) Hicker, founder of Castleforbes Communications and co-founder of the Speakeasy Club. Kat calls in from her home in The United Arab Emirates to talk about her career and what it’s like running PR campaigns in so many different parts of the world.

A Global Career Trajectory

Kat started her PR career as a freelancer in Germany before joining the McDonald’s in-house team in 2012 at its headquarters in Munich. In 2015, Kat moved to Ireland and began working for Google. Three years later, she moved to Amsterdam to head the company’s B2B PR efforts in Northern Europe. 

Kat left Google in 2020 and moved to Dubai, where she joined Careem — the Uber of the Middle East — as its global director of communications, public relations and social media. In 2021, Kat left Careem and launched Castelforbes, which offers PR services and media training to organizations in the United States, Europe and the Middle East.  

 

PR Practices Around the World

When asked what it was like to run campaigns in so many different countries, Kat described how each place has its own unique rules, which PR professionals need to understand before pitching.

 

The Middle East

As Kat describes it, the Middle East is “wild,” with a very informal pitching process involving WhatsApp messages and in-person conversations over coffee. Kat said she appreciates less process and more human interaction, but the informality in this approach leaves less for PR pros to rely on. 

 

Continental Europe

Europe has a more formal process than the Middle East or the U.S., with much longer lead times. Many organizations in continental Europe publish quarterly, which means pitches have to be very precise.

 

The United Kingdom 

Journalists in the United Kingdom are some of the toughest Kat has ever dealt with and approach their role from a more adversarial perspective. She says they have a practice of asking for comments on difficult stories late on Friday afternoons, so PRs and their clients have less time to form quality responses. 

 

The United States

The U.S. falls between the Middle East and Europe in formality, but journalists here are much more likely to offer feedback and opportunities for improvement when they say no.

As for what these regions have in common, Kat says how you write a press release is the same just about everywhere. Timing is also the same, with most pitches going out between 10 am – 2 pm on Wednesdays and Thursdays. Perhaps most importantly, journalists everywhere appreciate it when you send a quality piece of writing. 

 

Advice for Yourself First Starting out

Amy ended the conversation by asking Kat what advice she’d have for herself when she was just starting out in the industry. Kat said it would be to embrace the mistakes that you’re making because they’re the best way to learn. Rather than seeing mistakes as a failure, see them as a lesson and use them to do better, which is advice we all could benefit from.

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About the guest: Katharina Hicker

Katharina Hicker is a PR and communications professional with more than 12 years of experience in Fortune 500 companies. She’s also the co-founder of “The Speakeasy Club” and founder and managing director of Castleforbes Communications. Her work focuses on supporting tech businesses of all sizes with their communications strategies and PR campaigns, as well as teaching current and future executives to become the best and most confident speakers possible.

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Establishing an Ethical Framework for Dietary Supplement Marketing

Establishing an Ethical Framework for Dietary Supplement Marketing

Dietary supplements are a big business in the U.S., with an estimated $46 billion in sales in 2020. However, the rules around promoting these products are murky, leaving many marketers wondering how they can ethically communicate with the public.

On this episode of the PR Talk Podcast, host Amy Rosenberg talks with Dr. Douglas Kalman, senior vice president of science and regulatory affairs at the Natural Products Association, and adjunct faculty at Nova Southeastern University, about ethical marketing practices in the supplement industry and being a credible thought leader.

Complex Marketplace Can Create Potential Confusion

If you’re even a casual media consumer, you’ve probably noticed how pervasive health-related stories are, which indicates the popularity of these topics with the public. However, you likely also realize that health stories aren’t always accurate, or they may make wildly-inflated claims. Such inaccuracies may be because reporters don’t have the expertise to interpret scientific studies accurately. Other times, marketers may describe products to sound more effective than they are. Douglas offers that there are steps marketers can take to ensure they’re following ethical marketing standards and making sound claims about dietary supplements.

 

Understanding the Regulatory Environment

Two government agencies oversee the dietary supplement industry. The first is the Federal Trade Commission (FTC), which regulates advertising and marketing. The second agency is the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), which began overseeing the industry after President Bill Clinton signed the Dietary Supplement Health Education Act in 1994.

These two agencies have different purviews, which can be a source of some confusion. As Douglas explains it, the FDA regulates what’s in the bottle and on the bottle, while the FTC regulates what you say about the bottle.

Many of the challenges marketers face come from explaining what a supplement does or how users will benefit from taking it. Fortunately, the FTC has offered a few guidelines, called the Pfizer Factors or the reasonable basis standard, to help marketers determine whether they’re making a substantiated claim or not. The factors are:

  • The type of claim.
  • The type of product.
  • The consequences of a false claim.
  • The benefits of a truthful claim.
  • The cost of developing substantiation for the claim.
  • Would other experts in the field substantiate those claims?

Douglas suggests that marketers should consult the Pfizer Factors as they begin planning their messaging and campaigns. If they can’t check an item off the box, they should ask why and proceed accordingly. 

 

A Checklist for Dietary Supplement Marketers

Whether the FTC actually enforces its marketing regulations is an open question. Douglas believes that the agency generally pays more attention to products marketed to high-risk individuals. However, there is potential to draw negative scrutiny.

For example, the Better Business Bureau operates the National Advertising Division (NAD), a non-governmental organization that reviews marketing for truthfulness, accuracy, and substantiation. Companies and individuals can challenge the veracity of an organization’s claim set. When this happens, the NAD conducts a review and makes a ruling. While these rulings aren’t binding, most companies follow the guidelines because it will draw the FTC’s attention if they don’t. 

So how can marketers make ethical claims that won’t run afoul of the NAD or the FTC? Douglas offered this checklist to review before an ad goes out to the marketplace:

  • Did you read the FTC’s Dietary Supplements: An Advertising Guide for Industry, which explains the dos and don’ts for marketers?
  • Have you compared your claims to the Pfizer Factors?
  • Have you examined creating marketing options that offer different ways of making a claim while holding to the authentic truth? 
  • Does your claim sound too good to be true? If so, ask if you have enough evidence to support your claim. 

If marketers can check these items off, they’ll be in a fantastic position to ethically promote their supplements in the marketplace.  

 

Possible Changes on the Horizon? 

Douglas and Amy covered even more during their conversation. So, listen to the entire episode to hear more about the proposed Durbin Bill, which would expand the FDA’s oversight of the supplement industry, and how Douglas has managed to become an outspoken thought leader in the industry.

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About the guest: Douglas Kalman

Douglas Kalman PhD, RD, FACN, FISSN has been involved in over 250 clinical trials, published over 80 abstracts and more than 60 peer-reviewed manuscripts. He’s also the Co-Editor of the International Society of Sports Nutrition’s Journal and on the Editorial Board of three scientific journals.

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PR Industry Change: A Real Conversation About Diversity, Equity and Inclusion with Fatou Barry [Podcast]

PR Industry Change: A Real Conversation About Diversity, Equity and Inclusion with Fatou Barry [Podcast]

In this week’s episode of the PR Talk Podcast, Amy speaks with Fatou B Barry, founder of AB Media Group and the PR Girl Manifesto, a nonprofit digital community of over 40,000 members on a mission to make careers in communications more accessible. She is also the co-founder of Hold the PRess, now merged with Sixth Hundred & Rising, which advocates for black voices in PR and advertising.

Amy and Fatou discuss creating an inclusive platform for PR practitioners, what diversity in PR looks like today, and if PR practitioners should address diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) with their clients.

Community & Diversity in PR

While Fatou was eager to begin her PR career, she noticed a lack of shared knowledge within the industry, which ultimately stalled her sense of belonging. Her feelings of being unwelcome and unprepared motivated her to found PR Girl Manifesto, a free digital community that engages a community of diverse women through industry insight, mentorship and fellowship. The nonprofit’s goal is to create opportunities for growth and education, while increasing a wide range of representation within the PR industry.

The lack of women in high-level PR positions, within an industry that is largely dominated by women, has become all the more apparent to Fatou through this work. Moreover, a recent Harvard Business Review analysis of the federal labor statistics found the PR industry to be 89.7 percent white, 8.3 percent black, 2.6 percent Asian, and 5.7 percent Hispanic or Latinx. These are major industry issues that can no longer be ignored.

 

Addressing DEI Within Agencies 

Fatou is addressing these issues not just through PR Girl Manifesto, but through another project called Hold the PRess, which she created with her colleagues in response to the social media reactions surrounding the murder of George Floyd, which she found lacking in meaning. 

After merging with Sixth Hundred and Rising, the two groups set out to address systemic racism at PR and advertising agencies. Their first step was to reach out to a grouping of agencies with a DEI survey. The findings showed many of these companies were not tracking their diversity, leading Fatou and her colleagues to educate agencies about the importance of tracking diversity data in an effort to implement good DEI practices. A follow-up survey has recently been sent out, and only 20 out of over 80 agencies responded at the time of the interview.

 

The PR Practitioner’s DEI Role

When the conversation led to Amy asking if PR practitioners should give their clients DEI advice, Fatou said we could highlight good DEI practices and offer general education, but companies should hire trained DEI specialists. While Fatou believes PR professionals could get DEI certified to increase their awareness and understanding, she cautions against PR people actually advising on DEI matters.

Listen to the full podcast to hear Amy and Fatou go more in-depth on the issues facing the PR industry and learn more about helpful industry resources!

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About the guest: Fatou B. Barry

Fatou B. Barry is a Guinean-born brand strategist known for her communications and community-building work. She is the founder of PR Girl Manifesto, a nonprofit organization, digital community and industry-leading platform on a mission to make communications a more accessible career path. In addition, Fatou is also the founder of AB Media Group, a creative consultancy specializing in brand design, digital marketing and strategic communications. The consultancy also serves as a creative collective supporting young talent via monthly grants and events catered to creatives. 

Her work is influenced by her desire to bridge equity and knowledge gaps for young people of color. She has created several spaces to grow and nurture this passion, including the launch of Hold The Press, a grassroots initiative co-founded by Fatou that calls for action, accountability, and transparency in the public relations industry for black people.

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Talking Web3 and NFTs with Joseph Jaffe [Podcast]

Talking Web3 and NFTs with Joseph Jaffe [Podcast]

Cryptocurrency… Blockchain… NFTs… Web3… You hear these buzzwords everywhere now, but what do they actually mean? More importantly, how will they impact the work of marketing and public relations professionals in the future? On this episode of the PR Talk Podcast, host Amy Rosenberg sits down with serial entrepreneur and author Joseph Jaffe for an illuminating conversation about the future of the internet.

Internet Phases Explained

Joseph has a long history of exploring the boundaries of marketing as a noted author and keynote speaker. More recently, he’s focusing on helping people understand the business of Web3 by founding the Alpha Collective community. Joseph explained to Amy how Web3 is different from previous internet phases at the start of their conversation.

  • Web1: Joseph characterized this as the read-only phase of the internet, where we began digitizing our lives by putting our catalogs online. This phase also represented the beginning of online video and content strategies.
  • Web2: Known as the read/write phase, this is when social media began to dominate the web along with user-generated content and citizen media. 
  • Web3: Joseph calls the newest phase of the web the read/write/reward era, where creators can monetize their content through shared ownership and shared reward. Blockchain, cryptocurrency and non-fungible tokens (NFTs) all fall under Web3.

One of the defining features of Web2 is that content is free, and nobody gets paid. Joseph compared this to the analogy that you should never build a house on rented land. Web2 relies on creators publishing their content on platforms they don’t own and don’t control, like Facebook and YouTube. To make matters worse, the platforms limit their content’s reach unless creators start paying for ad money. Web3 wants to redefine this dynamic.

 

Web3 for Creators & Marketers

Joseph sees a bright future for content creators and marketers in the Web3 era. The smart contracts underlying NFTs can power royalties and residuals, which will lead to the rise of content entrepreneurs. And because the smart contract moves with the content, it’s not tied to a specific platform and can be bought and sold, again and again, building lasting value for the creator.

At the same time, brands can issue their own coins or tokens to engage their customers directly by building premium communities. These tokens could offer lifetime discounts, special access to events or any utility the creator builds into the contract. Owners could also buy and resell these tokens, creating ongoing value for brands. Perhaps most importantly, brand tokens could eventually serve as a universal customer identification that fuels marketing efforts. 

 

The Game’s Just Begun

If all this sounds overwhelming, don’t worry. Joseph was quick to point out that we’re still in the first inning of a nine-inning game of a seven-game series, so there’s still plenty of time to learn about this new technology and get involved. Listen to the full episode to hear more about Joseph’s insight into Web3, why he issued his own token called the Jaffe coin and how he pivoted to hosting a talk show during COVID.

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Joseph Jaffe is an author and entrepreneur. He’s written five books, including Life After The 30-Second Spot, Join the Conversation, Flip the Funnel and Z.E.R.O. His latest book is Built to Suck: The Inevitable Demise of the Corporation…and How to Save It? As a consultant and thought leader in the marketing and innovation space, he’s worked with countless Fortune 500 companies, as well as startups. As a speaker, Joseph delivers a brilliant, high-impact message with innovative and practical advice for movement towards growth.

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Where’s the Culture – Marketing Connection? Right Here with Emmy Thomas [Podcast]

Where’s the Culture – Marketing Connection? Right Here with Emmy Thomas [Podcast]

Joining Amy on today’s PR Talk Podcast is Emmy Thomas, VP of Brand and Marketing at Logical Position (LP), an award-winning digital marketing agency. During this episode, the two tackle the topic of connecting company culture and marketing.

Making the Culture and Marketing Connection

Emmy’s career trajectory clearly illustrates the connection between company culture and marketing. Working on the sales team when she first started at LP, Emmy transitioned to recruiting and then into marketing to her current position as vice president of brand and marketing. In that journey, she was able to see the company from both the customer and employee sides and began to understand the critical connection between company culture and marketing. Now, as she works to create a cohesive brand, Emmy starts by ensuring that LP’s internal culture empowers employees to be positive company megaphones.

 

How to Build a Strong Company Culture

In her recruiting role, Emmy learned about the value of employee experience.

“Happy employees that feel heard and respected can increase the odds of happy clients,” said Emmy. “When employees have a personal and deep investment in the company and its mission, they become a ‘megaphone’ and influential voice, externally. It’s not just leaders saying how great the company is; it’s everyone.”

To do that, LP builds an employee-focused culture through its company newsletters, virtual events and inclusive meetings that engage the entire organization. In addition, LP regularly uses internal surveys to gauge employee morale and gain opinions from staff to make continuous improvements enterprise-wide.

 

The Return on Investment

A working culture with empowered employees translates to powerful external marketing in which employee-client success stories can be shared. Stories such as these help external audiences make true connections with LP, building positivity, credibility, new client leads and current client retention.

And, at a time when The Great Resignation is causing employees and applicants to desire more than “just a job,” a positive company culture enhances recruiting, particularly through employee referrals.

 

Ways to Step Up Your Culture Game 

Emmy believes that if you work on culture first, the marketing will more easily fall into place. However, with many employees now having the option to work from home, it can be difficult to ensure their voices are heard and staff is engaged. LP has addressed this by providing department managers with tools, budgets and ideas for team building that adapt to remote workers.

When asked how companies can emulate this with minimal to no budget, Emmy offered the following tips:

  • Give employees a voice, then listen and respect it.
  • Implement surveys to implement organizational improvements.
  • Prioritize work-life balance.

Amy ended by asking Emmy about her personal mission statement. “I want to be sure that employees are proud that they work at LP. If they are proud of what we do, they’ll be more likely to promote the company organically.”

Listen now to learn more about different ways to create a positive company culture and effectively reflect it in your organization’s brand; plus what an applicant can discover about a company’s culture by observing its marketing.

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About the guest: Emmy Thomas

Emmy is the vice president of brand and marketing at Logical Position, a 2021 Inc. Best Workplace (also named Inc.’s 2017 #3 Best Workplace), Oregonian Top Workplace, and Oregon Business 100 Best Company. In her role, Emmy ensures the company’s mission and values are represented throughout the LP brand with a consistent vision and voice across all internal and external channels. Alongside the Marketing and Employee Experience teams, she works to deliver on Logical Position’s company goal of increased revenue, efficiency, and employee satisfaction.  

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